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by Cilantro Che Guevara

A Thing of Beauty stars, Colby Keller and Dale Cooper, gave a mind-blowing interview to Indyreader published this week. All questions you may have about the porn industry, behind the scenes, how it works, and why two normal anthropology dudes just decided to give the whole gay porn thing a go… all answered here.

Their thoughts on how some people think they’re prostitutes just because they do porn:

S: Right. Do people assume then that you also do escorting? Do you get a lot of assumptions?

C: A lot of people do, yeah.

D: And it can also be…I feel like part of the problem I’ve had too, I think Colby and I, well and there are many other porn performers that are like this, but you know, we do a good job of sharing maybe parts of our personalities that are not that performance aspect of porn. Whether with the fan base, or our friends, or acquaintances that we meet as Dale Cooper or as Colby Keller or what have you. I feel like that distinction is still kind of there…I guess because the porn work is just my occupation, it’s very easy for me to separate it. But I noticed that even with close friends, or with people who know me as Dale Cooper, we’ve bonded over other things. But they still will just come back to that, in a way. Me personally, I’m like “you haven’t gotten over that yet?”

S: Over the fact that you do porn?

D: Over the fact that I do porn. And not necessarily in like a really blatant way, but it’s almost like it’s constantly this nagging thought in the back of this other person’s head. In a really bizarre way. I’ve had a few people who I would call, maybe like close acquaintances as Dale, just like feel the need almost, or at least I feel like, to constantly reference the fact that I do sex work. As if I’ve forgotten. You know, “I’m well aware of it.”

Their thoughts on “live camming” and how it’s actually an extremely difficult thing to do:

C: Well, I’ve done camming work before…

S: What does that mean?

C: Oh, where you have a live camera on the computer, people can see you, you can’t see them. They pay you for it.

D: And that’s actually something that for me personally is so akin to escorting that I can’t really do it. I’ve tried and I’ve tried and I’ve tried, because it’s a good solid source of income.

C: It’s incredibly difficult. I can’t even imagine being there with people that I wouldn’t be sexually attracted to and to have to perform sexually, like I could just not go to that level. I think you almost do have to be a hypersexual person to pull it off cause it’s just really demanding…and you have to be really good at compartmentalizing your sexuality and your emotional life, and I just don’t have the skills (laughs). I am not a big enough person for that I think.

And the things they like the most and the least about the porn industry:

S: Alright, well I’m gonna try to wrap it up, but I’m gonna be cheesy at the end and ask you what is the best and worst thing about being a porn performer?

C: Best and worst? Possibly the same thing. And that’s the main reason I do it which is money. I can’t set my own schedule so sometimes you really have to work to find work. Which can be very frustrating. But it’s also nice when it comes and I can do other things, like I said, I’m an artist with an art practice so a lot of free time to do that. Or not free time, but time to do that. And that’s really important to me. And porn allows me to do that. So it’s difficult, bad in that sense, but also good.

D: I’ll have to concur. I think for me, particularly as someone who had a full-time, professional “real” job, at the same time that I was a practicing porn performer, really there’s nothing worse than sitting at a desk .

C: Yeah, I’ve had really physically demanding blue collar jobs that don’t pay you shit! And I worked for a company, I worked for Nieman Marcus for two years and they worked me 70 hour weeks, they didn’t even consider me a full-time employee because they didn’t want to pay me health insurance! And they paid me half of what they paid everyone else and I did more work than everyone else. Horrible company. So porn is a lot better than that situation.

D: Yeah, so I do really like the amount of time that I have to myself. And it’s also given me an ability to travel that I wouldn’t have. I never really traveled much growing up, or much at all until fairly recently outside of the porn world. You had asked earlier, there is not porn at least not that I know of, not that I participate in in Baltimore, so I do travel a lot for it. So that has been really nice to see new cities and new places.

You can read the rest of the interview over at Indyreader.

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